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Fun reading material to read while watching the FULT position:

https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20230420005788/en/

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Ha, kiss of death!

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STC FULT Sep 10 strike put @1.00 exch EDGX and BOX.

Liquidating 1/2 of position at 100% profit. Letting the rest ride at zero risk. Will re-enter if there is a short covering rally.

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BTO FULT Sep 5.00-7.50 put verticals @0.15 exch BOX. Looks like you can buy all that you want at that price/exchange. The 7.50 puts were trading @0.25 yesterday, are 0.35 midpoints today but wide bid/ask.

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Not filling the sep 7.50-10.00 put verticals @0.30 so ...

BTO Sep 10 Puts @ 0.50 exch BOX

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Don’t forget to send me that email you mentioned: contact@portfolioarmor.com

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Exited the second half of this put spread at $0.35 today for a gain of 20%.

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Followed David Janello's example today and exited half of my FULT spread at $0.75, for a gain of 168%. My GTC limit order to exit the other half is at $2.15.

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I had been watching this like a hawk and was able to set up the "limit" order based on Davids suggestion on the spreads.

On 4/28 I bought 10x $10 @ $0.44 for -$446.79

I sold 10x $7.50 @ $0.16 for $153.20 for a debit of -$293.59

On 5/9 I Sold 10x $10 for $1.07 for $1,063.20

I bought 10x $7.50 @ $0.37 for -$370.29 for a credit of $692.91

$399.32 is the profit.

My question is how do you figure out the ROI when the starting price is a debit?

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The debit is what you paid, on net, so I take the net credit I exited for, subtract the net debit I entered for, and then divide the difference by the net debit entered for.

So, in this FULT example, I paid $0.28 per paired contract on net for the spread when I got in (the net debit of $0.28). And I got $0.75 when I sold half the contracts today. So: $0.75 - $0.28 = $0.47, and ( $0.47 / $0.28 ) x 100% = 167.85%, which I rounded up to 168%.

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Very nice, so I can extrapolate this to my numbers, how do you get the $0.28 you paid per paired contract?

What would my entry be, the $0.44 less the $0.16 is $0.28 if I subtract the $0.16 cents from the $0.44 cents?

And my exit would be $1.07 - $0.37 for $0.70

So is my results $0.70 - $0.28 =$0.42 / $0.28 = 150%?

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The $0.28 is what I entered in the debit field as a limit price when I opened the spread.

Your math looks correct to me. Congrats on the 150% gain.

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Thank you so much for your knowledge & trade. Two questions.

1. You are waiting on BOIL

2. CS, its dead and not coming back?

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My pleasure.

Yes, I'm still holding those BOIL calls.

CS is being acquired by UBS. I sold my CS calls for a few cents, IIRC, because their strike price was well above UBS's acquisition price in dollar terms.

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BTO Sep 5.00-7.50 Put Vertical @0.16 exch TBSTRIKE algo

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My FULT $10 buy is down -21.66% & - $96.79 with a $446.79 cost basis now @ $350.00

My SFM $7.50 Sell is down -26.80% & -$286.80 with a $153.20 cost basis now @ $450.00

Since I found I need to keep an eagle eye on these, what are your thoughts on how it played out?

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FULT releases earnings in July. If it's going to make you nervous looking at its options fluctuate between now and then, you're welcome to close out the position.

SFM is trading at $37.75 after hours right now. That's going to be another nice win for us if the price stays above $36.

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